It was great to have a discussion with Meghan Lawson recently on the #InnovatorsMindset podcast.  She was of tremendous help writing “Innovate Inside the Box,” and one of the most popular quotes in the book comes from a conversation the two of us had via text!

In this podcast, Meghan and I talk about the importance of finding joy in the work that we do each day and why it is so important that we elevate others, students and adults, in education.  

You can watch the podcast here on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Soundcloud!